Legislature(2021 - 2022)SENATE FINANCE 532

01/24/2022 09:00 AM Senate FINANCE

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09:03:54 AM Start
09:05:48 AM Governor's Fy 23 Budget Proposal
10:55:28 AM Adjourn
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                 SENATE FINANCE COMMITTEE                                                                                       
                     January 24, 2022                                                                                           
                         9:03 a.m.                                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
9:03:54 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
CALL TO ORDER                                                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair  Stedman   called  the  Senate   Finance  Committee                                                                    
meeting to order at 9:03 a.m.                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
MEMBERS PRESENT                                                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
Senator Click Bishop, Co-Chair                                                                                                  
Senator Bert Stedman, Co-Chair                                                                                                  
Senator Lyman Hoffman                                                                                                           
Senator Donny Olson (via teleconference)                                                                                        
Senator Bill Wielechowski                                                                                                       
Senator David Wilson                                                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
MEMBERS ABSENT                                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
Senator Natasha von Imhof                                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
ALSO PRESENT                                                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
Neil Steininger, Director, Office  of Management and Budget,                                                                    
Office of the Governor.                                                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
SUMMARY                                                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
GOVERNOR'S FY 23 BUDGET PROPOSAL                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
^GOVERNOR'S FY 23 BUDGET PROPOSAL                                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
9:05:48 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
NEIL STEININGER, DIRECTOR, OFFICE  OF MANAGEMENT AND BUDGET,                                                                    
OFFICE  OF  THE   GOVERNOR,  began  with  slide   9  of  the                                                                    
presentation,  "State of  Alaska; Office  of Management  and                                                                    
Budget; FY2023 Governor's  Budget; Senate Finance Committee;                                                                    
January 21, 2022" (copy on  file). The slide was titled, "FY                                                                    
23 Agency Operating Budget Changes."                                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
Senator Hoffman looked  at the restoration of  funds for the                                                                    
sweep impacts,  and wondered which  funds were  not restored                                                                    
in the sweep.                                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
Mr. Steininger replied that the  $33.6 million was to ensure                                                                    
that  any programs  funded with  swept funds  had access  to                                                                    
full funding  in FY 23.  He stated  that there were  not any                                                                    
funds that were not chosen for restoration. H                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
Senator  Hoffman  queried  which funds  that  were  restored                                                                    
because of the sweep.                                                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
Mr.  Steininger replied  that the  budget  proposal did  not                                                                    
include a reversal of the  sweep. The money for the programs                                                                    
would be from UGF.                                                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
9:10:09 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Senator  Hoffman  queried  the  funds that  were  not  fully                                                                    
restored in the proposal.                                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
Mr. Steininger agreed to provide that information.                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair Stedman remarked that there  had been a request for                                                                    
a  legal opinion  on the  accounting  interpretation of  the                                                                    
executive branch.                                                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
Senator  Wilson wondered  how much  federal  funds would  be                                                                    
used, and for how long those funds would be utilized.                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
Mr.  Steininger replied  that there  were several  places in                                                                    
the  infrastructure bill  where  the  Alaska Marine  Highway                                                                    
System (AMHS) funding would come  through, so the portion to                                                                    
allow the  offset was  a $200 million  per year  program for                                                                    
five years  for rural ferry  systems on the  national level,                                                                    
but for  only two ferry  systems in the  country. Therefore,                                                                    
there was  an expectation to  receive at least half  of that                                                                    
$200 million.                                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
Senator  Wilson wondered  whether the  $65 million  would be                                                                    
for all five years.                                                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
Mr. Steininger  replied that the funding  would be available                                                                    
as long as the federal program was in place.                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair Stedman  announced that there would  be discussions                                                                    
about the AMHS  and its position after the end  of the five-                                                                    
year period.                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
9:16:13 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Mr. Steininger pointed to slide 10, "Formula Cost Drivers":                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
     K-12 Education                                                                                                             
     ? Fully funded to the $5,930 base student allocation                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
     Medicaid                                                                                                                   
     ?COVID-related enhanced federal match (FMAP) currently                                                                     
     expires at end of FY2022                                                                                                   
    ?Pent up demand for services increases utilization                                                                          
     ?$45m UGF increment restores Medicaid state share to                                                                       
     pre-pandemic levels                                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair Bishop understood that  the boarding school formula                                                                    
was  not a  part of  the Base  Student Allocation  (BSA). He                                                                    
wondered whether there were  conversations with the boarding                                                                    
schools related to their deficit spending.                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
Mr. Steininger  replied that he  had not  conversations with                                                                    
the  boarding  schools, but  there  was  an expansion  of  a                                                                    
residential  school  in  the  budget.  He  deferred  to  the                                                                    
Department of  Education and Early Development  (DEED) about                                                                    
the costs of the boarding schools.                                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair  Stedman  echoed  the concern  about  the  boarding                                                                    
school funding.                                                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
Senator  Wilson  asked about  the  possible  failure in  the                                                                    
disparity funding.                                                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
Mr. Steininger  replied that DEED  was currently  working to                                                                    
discuss with  the federal Department of  Education about the                                                                    
disparity test. He noted that  there was work on alternative                                                                    
calculation to meet the disparity test.                                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
9:20:36 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair Stedman  queried the dollar  amount related  to the                                                                    
issue.                                                                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
Mr. Steininger  explained that  there were  school districts                                                                    
that received  federal impact  aid, which  was approximately                                                                    
$70  million to  $75 million.  He stated  that, in  order to                                                                    
count  the federal  impact aid  as a  portion of  K-12 state                                                                    
funding to the districts, a disparity test must be met.                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair Stedman queried the  concentration of fund location                                                                    
under the new location.                                                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
Mr. Steininger deferred to DEED,  but reiterated that he was                                                                    
confident   that  the   reinterpretation  would   take  into                                                                    
consideration the  unique factors  of the state  as compared                                                                    
to the rest of the country.                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair Stedman  felt that  DEED could  present on  the new                                                                    
disparity test.                                                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
Senator Wilson  wondered whether there had  been discussions                                                                    
about  the  Federal  Medical  Assistance  Percentage  (FMAP)                                                                    
continuation in the state.                                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
Mr.  Steininger  replied  that   there  had  been  a  recent                                                                    
extension which stated  that there would be  60 days warning                                                                    
before expiration.                                                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
9:25:06 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Mr. Steininger looked at slide 11, "Public Protection":                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
     Over  $30  million  operating   UGF  added  for  public                                                                    
     protection:                                                                                                                
     ? Fully fund filled  positions added in previous fiscal                                                                    
     years for Public Safety and Law: $1.3m                                                                                     
     ? 15 new Trooper positions                                                                                                 
     ?  10 new  Village Public  Safety Officers  and related                                                                    
     costs: $3.9m                                                                                                               
     ? Add  14 DPS support  positions so Troopers  can focus                                                                    
     on policing: $1.8m                                                                                                         
     ?  Add  positions  for Rural  Fire  Investigations  and                                                                    
    increase DNR wildland fire fighting capacity: $4.5m                                                                         
     ?  Add 30  Correctional institution  support positions,                                                                    
     mental health  treatment resources,  and HilandMountain                                                                    
     booking: $4.1m                                                                                                             
     ?  Address trial  backlogs $1.8m  and defense  capacity                                                                    
     $428.7k                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Senator Hoffman  asked for the  details of the  locations of                                                                    
fourteen   support   positions    for   the   troopers   and                                                                    
correctional support  positions in  order to  understand how                                                                    
these positions were spread throughout the state.                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair Stedman asked that the  request also be sent to the                                                                    
committee.                                                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
9:29:04 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Senator  Wilson  wondered  whether  the  additional  Village                                                                    
Public Safety  Officer (VPSO) positions  were on top  of the                                                                    
fulfilled positions,  and asked why  money was not  used for                                                                    
better recruitment and retention efforts.                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
Mr. Steininger  replied that the  money was for  an addition                                                                    
of ten  new VPSO slots.  He stated  that, in the  past, when                                                                    
the positions were  not filled, there would  be lapsed money                                                                    
in the program. He stressed  that the department had renewed                                                                    
their efforts to support the VPSO program.                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair  Stedman felt  that the  Department  of Law  should                                                                    
present  to  the  committee about  public  safety  in  rural                                                                    
Alaska.                                                                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair Bishop  wondered whether  the $428,000  for Defense                                                                    
Capacity was for the Public Defenders Office.                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
Mr. Steininger replied in the affirmative.                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
Senator Olson  wondered whether  there was  specific funding                                                                    
to  assist the  places that  were hard  hit by  the lack  of                                                                    
recruitment and retention.                                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
Mr. Steininger replied that the  addition of money for VPSOs                                                                    
was for the overall program.                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
9:34:45 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Senator  Hoffman stressed  that  the  department could  give                                                                    
leeway to  the contract-ees in  the VPSO program  to address                                                                    
recruitment,  including  additional flexibility  for  moving                                                                    
funds to support the VPSOs themselves.                                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair Stedman  remarked that  there were  horrible family                                                                    
issues  across  the  state,  and   there  needed  to  be  an                                                                    
examination of possible changes.                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair  Bishop stated  that Senator  Hoffman had  captured                                                                    
his comments.                                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
Senator Wilson  expressed concern  about the  trial backlog,                                                                    
and whether there was money assigned for future trials.                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
Mr. Steininger deferred to the Department of Law.                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
Senator Wilson  noted that with the  administration's public                                                                    
protection  and   People  First  Initiative,   and  wondered                                                                    
whether the  administration anticipated  a larger  number of                                                                    
incarcerated people in the state.                                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
9:39:47 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Mr.  Steininger  pointed  to slide  12,  "Public  Protection                                                                    
continued":                                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
     People First Initiative UGF:                                                                                               
          ? Domestic Violence and Sexual Assault                                                                                
               ? $3.5m for victim services provider grants                                                                      
               ? $1.5m to reduce turnaround time on DNA                                                                         
               testing and increase forensics lab capacity                                                                      
               ? $1.0m for staff to provide victim services                                                                     
               and perpetrator intervention                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
     Missing and Murdered Indigenous Persons                                                                                    
          ? Tribal liaisons and additional support for the                                                                      
          Missing Persons Clearinghouse $713.9k                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
     Homelessness                                                                                                               
          ? Statewide homelessness coordinator, database,                                                                       
          and data manager $866.3k                                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
     Foster Care and Office of Children's Services                                                                              
          ? $1.4m for the Tribal Child Welfare Compact                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
Mr.  Steininger looked  at slide  13, "Resource  Development                                                                    
and State Primacy":                                                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
     Invest in state primacy over resource management                                                                           
         ? Expand timber resource capacity $460.0k                                                                              
          ? $5.7m to assume primacy from the EPA over                                                                           
          resource development permitting                                                                                       
               ? Resource Conservation and Recovery Act                                                                         
               $830.0k                                                                                                          
               ? Clean Water Act Section 404 $4.9m                                                                              
     ? $4m to continue statehood defense efforts                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
     Capital funding to develop mariculture and agriculture                                                                     
     industries to enhance food security and economic                                                                           
     development $50m                                                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
Senator Hoffman  noted the disasters  related to  the salmon                                                                    
industry, and  felt that the  salmon on the  Yukon Kuskokwim                                                                    
Delta were  on the verge  of extinction. He stated  that the                                                                    
residents  had not  been able  to fish  for salmon.  He felt                                                                    
that  there could  be  an effort  to  address that  critical                                                                    
issue.                                                                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
Mr. Steininger  replied that there  were a number  of places                                                                    
in the capital budget that address that issue.                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
9:46:11 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Senator Hoffman stressed  that there needed to  be a program                                                                    
to add more salmon to the stock in the state.                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair Bishop  felt that the  money in the  capital budget                                                                    
for  the  issue barely  dealt  with  the critical  issue  of                                                                    
salmon.                                                                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair  Stedman  explained  that hatcheries  in  Southeast                                                                    
Alaska  had  turned the  salmon  industry  around since  the                                                                    
1970s,  so  perhaps something  similar  could  occur in  the                                                                    
Yukon Kuskokwim Delta.                                                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
9:49:00 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Mr.  Steininger   pointed  to   slide  14,   "Improve  State                                                                    
Government Functions":                                                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
     Executive Order for new Department of Family and                                                                           
     Community Services and Department of Health                                                                                
          ?DFCS   for   leadership   focus   to   Children's                                                                    
          Services,    Juvenile    Justice,   and    24-hour                                                                    
          facilities                                                                                                            
          ?DOH for leadership focus on public health,                                                                           
          Medicaid, and public assistance                                                                                       
          ?$434.3k UGF and $1.9m Total for new positions                                                                        
     Public Safety Communication Systems transfer to Public                                                                     
     Safety                                                                                                                     
          ?This function is more aligned with DPS' mission                                                                      
          to ensure public safety                                                                                               
          ?DPS has an existing division that can seamlessly                                                                     
          absorb these services                                                                                                 
          ?Net zero budget impact                                                                                               
     Transfer Exxon Valdez Oil Spill Trustee Council from                                                                       
     ADFG to DEC                                                                                                                
          ?Net zero budget impact                                                                                               
     Invest in Department of Administration Information                                                                         
     Technology                                                                                                                 
          ?"Pandemic Proofing" and avoidance of the next                                                                        
          major cyber-attack $28.9m UGF (capital)                                                                               
          ?Restructured how  cost of  investments in  IT and                                                                    
          other  central  services   are  reflected  in  the                                                                    
          budget.  Adds  additional accountability  for  DOA                                                                    
          costs. $4.1m UGF                                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
Senator  Wilson   wondered  whether  the  state   had  cyber                                                                    
insurance to help offset the costs from the cyber-attacks.                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
Mr. Steininger agreed to provide that information.                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
Senator Hoffman wondered whether  the council had weighed in                                                                    
on the movement of the money.                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
Mr. Steininger replied  that the council was  not opposed to                                                                    
the move, and  agreed to provide more  information about the                                                                    
detail of their involvement.                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Mr.  Steininger   looked  at   slide  15,   "FY23  Statewide                                                                    
Operating Items."                                                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
9:55:53 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Senator  Hoffman recalled  the  discussion  of the  Regional                                                                    
Educational  Attendance Area  (REAA)  Fund which  set up  to                                                                    
build schools in rural Alaska.  He requested an opinion from                                                                    
the Attorney General  about the outcome of  the decision not                                                                    
to fully fund the Kasayulie Settlement.                                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair Stedman requested follow  up information for school                                                                    
bond reimbursement. He said that  there was concern that the                                                                    
legislature had  never been in agreement  with the executive                                                                    
branch on School  bond reimbursement. He noted  that oil tax                                                                    
credits were fully funded in the governor's budget.                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair  Stedman  continued  his  statement  pertaining  to                                                                    
liability and the payment schedule for PERS and TRS.                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
10:04:07 AM                                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
Mr.  Steininger  pointed  to  slide  16,  "SB  55/Retirement                                                                    
Contributions":                                                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
     Strong investment performance in FY21 resulted in                                                                          
     significant savings for the public employee retirement                                                                     
     systems                                                                                                                    
          ?Investment performance reduced the State's                                                                           
          required contribution to PERS/TRS systems by                                                                          
          $75.4 million UGF                                                                                                     
          ?Avoiding over contribution to PERS/TRS health                                                                        
          trusts saved $71 million UGF                                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
     SB55 year two fiscal note reduction of $14.7 million                                                                       
     UGF by shifting to other fund sources                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
    Total FY23 retirement savings: ($161.1 million UGF)                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
Mr. Steininger spoke of the benefits from SB 55.                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair Stedman asked  how much had shifted  to the federal                                                                    
government.                                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
Mr.  Steininger  replied  approximately 40  percent  of  the                                                                    
obligation.                                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair  Stedman   spoke  of  the  anticipated   ARM  board                                                                    
presentation.                                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
Senator Wilson  feared that the  utilization of  health care                                                                    
funds could  increase, but  agreed to  comment later  at the                                                                    
subject.                                                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair Stedman  noted Senator Wielechowski had  joined the                                                                    
meeting.                                                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
Mr. Steininger looked at slide 17, "Other Statewide Items":                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
     Fully fund municipal school bond debt reimbursement                                                                        
     $79.0m UGF                                                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
     Fully fund rural school construction contribution                                                                          
     (Regional Educational Attendance Area fund) $32.8m UGF                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
    Full community assistance deposit of $30m from PCE                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
     Full funding for oil and gas tax credits of $199m UGF                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair Stedman He wondered why  the additional revenue was                                                                    
not  being  used to  fully  fund  short, funded  items  when                                                                    
possible -  or why were the  extra funds not being  put into                                                                    
savings.                                                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
10:11:51 AM                                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
Mr. Steininger agreed  that the state had  some extra funds.                                                                    
He  said that  there was  $170 million  that would  be swept                                                                    
into the  CBR - the revenue  outlook was better but  was not                                                                    
enough to meet all fiscal needs.                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair Stedman  thought that  the committee would  look at                                                                    
the issue more closely. He  spoke of the supplemental budget                                                                    
and   expressed  concern   that   future  legislatures   and                                                                    
administrations could  be in a  position where  savings were                                                                    
depleted. He  said $200 million  was essentially a  "drop in                                                                    
the bucket"                                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
10:15:14 AM                                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
Senator  Hoffman  stressed  that  the  legislature  was  the                                                                    
appropriating   body,   and   the  administration   had   an                                                                    
obligation  to present  the budget  first. He  stressed that                                                                    
the  committee   must  give  the  supplemental   budget  due                                                                    
diligence.                                                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
Senator Wielechowski  wondered whether  the oil and  gas tax                                                                    
credits were proposed to be  fully funded in recent years by                                                                    
the governor.                                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
Mr. Steininger replied that, in  the year prior, the request                                                                    
was included in the budget  amendments. He furthered that in                                                                    
other  years there  was a  wait to  see the  outcome of  the                                                                    
court case related to financing the debt.                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair Stedman  stated that there would  be an examination                                                                    
of the history of those tax credits in recent years.                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
Senator  Wielechowski wondered  why the  administration felt                                                                    
it was important to fully fund  the oil and gas tax credits,                                                                    
but not the statutory obligated programs.                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
Mr.  Steininger  replied that  the  two  decisions were  not                                                                    
necessarily tied to the other.                                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
10:20:13 AM                                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
Mr. Steininger pointed to slide 18, "Federal COVID Relief":                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
     American Rescue Plan Discretionary Funding                                                                                 
          ?$375.4m for revenue replacement                                                                                      
          ?$20m in Fast Track Supplemental for public                                                                           
          health response                                                                                                       
          ?$37.4m FY2023 Operating investments                                                                                  
              ?$10m for workforce development                                                                                   
               ?$22.8m to the University of Alaska for                                                                          
               critical economic development                                                                                    
                   ?Drone Research $10m                                                                                         
                    ?Critical Minerals and Rare Earth                                                                           
                    Elements $7.8m                                                                                              
                    ?Heavy Oil Recovery Method Research $5m                                                                     
               ?$3.5m for Domestic Violence and Sexual                                                                          
               Assault Victim Services                                                                                          
               ?$1.1m to continue priority DNA collection                                                                       
               activities in Corrections                                                                                        
          ?$72m in Capital projects                                                                                             
          ?$64m of Coronavirus Capital Project Funds                                                                            
          Allocated                                                                                                             
               ?$47.9m remaining to allocate                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair  Bishop wondered  whether the  funds were  the $111                                                                    
million leftover for allocation.                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
Mr. Steininger replied in the affirmative.                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair   Bishop  surmised   that   the   year  prior   had                                                                    
highlighted those funds as broadband investment.                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
Mr. Steininger agreed.                                                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
Senator  Hoffman  stressed   that  they  were  discretionary                                                                    
funds,  and remarked  that food  security  was an  allowable                                                                    
expenditure.  He wondered  whether the  administration could                                                                    
look  at the  collapse of  chinook  salmon in  the state  to                                                                    
address that issue.                                                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
10:25:26 AM                                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
Senator   Wilson  asked   about  a    score  card    of  the                                                                    
Coronavirus Aid,  Relief, and Economic Security  (CARES) Act                                                                    
funds  and the  remaining fund  source. He  wondered whether                                                                    
the guidance had changed to any of the dedicated funds.                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
Mr. Steininger agreed to provide that information.                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
Senator Wilson  remarked that there were  some other states'                                                                    
lawsuits, which resulting in some  flexibility of the use of                                                                    
the funds.                                                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair  Stedman  shared that  there  would  be a  detailed                                                                    
examination  of  the funds  during  the  discussions of  the                                                                    
capital  and  operating  budgets.  He  stressed  that  there                                                                    
should not  be a  constraint put  on future  legislators and                                                                    
administrations.   He   wondered   whether   there   was   a                                                                    
consideration  to backfill  some relief  money with  general                                                                    
funds.                                                                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
Mr.  Steininger explained  that  the examination  of the  $1                                                                    
billion in  relief from the federal  government. He stressed                                                                    
that, with  the guidance  from the federal  government, that                                                                    
money acted as UGF.                                                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
10:32:22 AM                                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair  Stedman wondered  whether the  eligibility of  the                                                                    
funds remained until December 2024.                                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
Mr. Steininger  agreed, but there  could be an  extension if                                                                    
there  was  available GF  revenue  to  support some  of  the                                                                    
costs.                                                                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair Stedman recalled the  efforts of the legislature to                                                                    
forward-fund education, and offered that possibility again.                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
Senator   Wielechowski  wondered   whether   there  was   an                                                                    
examination of changing tax structure  to better receive oil                                                                    
and gas revenue for the state.                                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
Mr. Steininger deferred to DOR for that concern.                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
10:38:35 AM                                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair Stedman  stated that there would  be a conversation                                                                    
with the commissioner of DOR on the tax issue.                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
Mr. Steininger pointed to  slide 19, "Federal Infrastructure                                                                    
Investment and Jobs Act":                                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
     Infrastructure Investments and Jobs Act                                                                                    
          ?Enacted November 15, 2021                                                                                            
            -year reauthorization of established federal                                                                        
          programs and new programs                                                                                             
          ?New program details still pending                                                                                    
          ?Some program funding appropriated in the bill,                                                                       
          others awaiting an FFY22 budget                                                                                       
               ?Maximizing use in Alaska Marine Highway                                                                         
               System to preserve UGF and transition to a                                                                       
               sustainable system                                                                                               
          ?Remaining funds to be addressed when further                                                                         
          guidance is received                                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
10:40:40 AM                                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair Stedman queried the amendment deadline.                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
Mr.  Steininger  replied  that the  statutory  deadline  for                                                                    
amendments   was  thirty   days  from   the  start   of  the                                                                    
legislative session.                                                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair Stedman  wondered whether there would  be a request                                                                    
to consider amendments beyond the statutory deadline.                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
Mr. Steininger replied in the affirmative.                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
Senator Hoffman noted  that an important issue  that was not                                                                    
addressed  was broadband,  and there  would  be millions  of                                                                    
dollars  spent to  bring  broadband to  many  places in  the                                                                    
state.                                                                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
Senator  Wilson  felt  that   there  was   masking   of  the                                                                    
backfill with the classifications of federal funds.                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
Mr.   Steininger   replied   that  federal   receipts   were                                                                    
historically under a fund code in the budget.                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
10:45:36 AM                                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair  Stedman queried  the  concepts to  fund the   cash                                                                    
box.                                                                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
Mr. Steininger replied that the Rural Ferry Program, which                                                                      
was a federal program, would be used to fund that program.                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair Stedman surmised that there would be revenue that                                                                      
would be absorbed into the AMHS, and the subsidy would not                                                                      
be set aside.                                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
Mr. Steininger replied that the $63 million in UGF savings,                                                                     
went toward reducing the total need for general funds in                                                                        
the operating budget.                                                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
10:51:33 AM                                                                                                                   
AT EASE                                                                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
10:53:38 AM                                                                                                                   
RECONVENED                                                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair Stedman discussed committee business.                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
ADJOURNMENT                                                                                                                   
10:55:28 AM                                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
The meeting was adjourned at 10:55 a.m.                                                                                         

Document Name Date/Time Subjects
012422 LFD SFIN Presentation.pdf SFIN 1/24/2022 9:00:00 AM
LFD Governor's Budget Overview
012122 OMB FY23 Budget Overview SFIN.pdf SFIN 1/24/2022 9:00:00 AM
OMB Budget Overview